michael przewrocki
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Gigapan-Roboter
Posted: 10 Oct 2008 at 1:58 GMT
updated: 10 Oct 2008 at 2:14 GMT
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www.viewfindercenter.com/news/2008/9/18/push-butt...
www.gigapan.org/
this had been shown some time ago.
i wonder how many images are necessary and how long it would take to get a HR-Pan.
update: 160 images in 5 min.
let alone how long it would load. look at my pages and you know what i mean.
when shooting my first 3dstereo-pan i used one rotating-lens-pancam. second shot was 5 min. apart-too long for a perfect 3d. sun was moving-so did the shadow.
michael przewrocki-MPA
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panhorama ry-society for panoramic
photography as art form-tampere-SF
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Paul Thomas
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Re: Gigapan-Roboter
Posted: 10 Oct 2008 at 9:52 GMT
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Someone posted recently on the Gigapan unit mentioned and it is an exciting addition to the pano realm. I have registered my name for any future info when the unit becomes available.
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jamesprinter
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Re: Gigapan-Roboter
Posted: 10 Oct 2008 at 16:45 GMT
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I got a message last night inviting me to buy a Beta Gigapan unit for around $400... not sure whether to go for it. It can only use compact cameras like Canon Ixus (I have one but would rather use an SLR). I also doubt it can do full 360's including the floor.
Any ideas?
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mediavets
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jamesprinter
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michael przewrocki
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Re: Gigapan-Roboter
Posted: 14 Oct 2008 at 23:23 GMT
updated: 14 Oct 2008 at 23:27 GMT
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recently i have found-on youtoube-informations about a meade-head-variation with special software used for timelaps-images. there is a forum/site with this name. i have the link to youtoube but no time to dig it out.
2. i received a newsletter with 100 usd rebate for gigapan-roboter. 279 usd. but
3. in dpreview-sigma someone tried it out with long zoom-lens.
forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1027&me...
its not made for heavy gear. hopefully for panasonic lumix g1. i guess one could get at least very good 30x40cm or good 40x50cm-prints from single-shots with this new camera-system. or much bigger with gigapan-mosaicing. 60 or 80x800cm are possible.btw: at photokina 06 olympus-people told that panasonic 4/3 lumix 1 was using a different chip. g1 should be available soon.
7-14mm(14-28mm) is quite impressive, isnt it?
michael przewrocki
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michael przewrocki
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michael przewrocki
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michael przewrocki
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Thomas Krueger
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mediavets
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Re: Gigapan-Roboter- the inventor
Posted: 6 Nov 2008 at 8:31 GMT
updated: 6 Nov 2008 at 8:39 GMT
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If you are looking for a motorised pano head that can handle a DSLR then you may be interested in a project that's been underway for over 12 months and is now reaching fruition to adapt the Merlin/Orion astroscope head for use as a motorised pano head.
You simply replace the hand controller with an easy to assemble RS232-TTL adapter, and add an optional RS232-Bluetooth adapter and then you can control the head - via a wired serial connection or via Bluetooth, using the Papywizard software which runs on Nokia Internet Tablets, or with Windows 2000/XP or with Linux.
The Orion/Merlin head:
www.opticalvision.co.uk/... ..._merlin_multi-function_mount_and_tripod
The RS232-TTL adapter device:
www.tronisoft.com/4201.php
A compatible RS232-Bluetooth adapter:
www.tronisoft.com/2749.php
Nokia 770/800/810 Internet Tablets:
europe.nokia.com/A4145104
www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800
www.nseries.com/products/n810/#l=products,n810
The Papywizard software - this will run without requiring connection to the head so you can download, install and run the software to get a feel for what it can do - it's free too:
trac.gbiloba.org/papywizard/
You can also read more about this project on the Autopano Pro Forum - in English and in French:
www.autopano.net/forum/
I have just finished putting a system together, it was quite easy and it works very well IMO.
The next version of Autopano Pro will have built-in support for then Gigapan Imager robot and the Merlin/Papywizard robot. Autopano Giga to be released at the same time (scheduled for December 2008) will have additional support for the RodeonVR nd Pixorb robots.
Andrew
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Re: Gigapan-Roboter- the inventor
Posted: 6 Nov 2008 at 9:48 GMT
updated: 6 Nov 2008 at 10:11 GMT
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michael przewrocki said: www.emrichs.de/gigapanbot/index-en.htm
maybe someone with more time could contact him if this item is available and for what price.
I asked via another forum and got no reponse.
They look great and seem very well designed - both the one-axis and two-axis versions - but they use some quite expensive stepper motors and gearboxes so I don't think they would be inexpensive.
There is no indication that he plans to make these units available for sale.
Andrew
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Re: Gigapan-Roboter
Posted: 6 Nov 2008 at 9:50 GMT
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Paul Thomas said: Someone posted recently on the Gigapan unit mentioned and it is an exciting addition to the pano realm. I have registered my name for any future info when the unit becomes available.
You can buy it now - US$ 279.
www.gigapansystems.com/
Here's what one recent (UK) purchaser has to say about it:
www.autopano.net/forum/p31907-to … -09#p31907
Andrew
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Re: Gigapan-Roboter
Posted: 6 Nov 2008 at 10:11 GMT
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I know some people have made their own motorised pano heads from scratch, or are considering making their own controllers for the Merlin/Orion head for use as a pano head, but is it worth it?
The Merlin/Orion two-axis motorised mount, including a tripod and hand controller, costs GBP 149.
The free Papywizard software running on a Nokia Tablet will give you a 'ready made' handheld wireless controller.
The Nokia 770 Tablet which runs the Maemo OS (a version of Linux) sports a bright, 4-inch, 800x480 touchscreen, 65K colour display, has built-in WiFI and Bluetooth, and RS-MMC card slot up to 2GB, and can be picked up secondhand on eBay relatively cheaply, typically for GBP 50-70. I doubt anyone could make something at home to match it at this price. The current Nokia N800 and N810 Tablets will also run Papywizard, of course.
Beyond that all you need is the Tronisoft 4201 RS232-TTL module - solder 4-5 connections to add two resistors, one link and a 4-conductor RJ11 cable and you're done - of course it will look nicer if you put it in a small box! The Tronisoft RS232-TTL adapter takes its power from the 8xAA batteries that power the Merlin head, by way of the RJ11 cable used to connect it to the Merlin head. Add an RS232-Bluetooth adapter that can be powered on pin-9 - such as the Tronisoft BTLink. And away you go. Together this lot will cost about GBP 35.
No modification of the internal electronics, or external connectors, of the Merlin/Orion head are required. The RS232-TTL adapter simply plugs in where the standard hand controller would plug in.
The Merlin head has a connector to which can be attached a shutter release cable/device which is automatically triggered as appropriate by the Paywizard software. Direct cable connection or IR shutter release triggers can be used. the Merlin head is supplied with a shutter release cable for low end (Rebel series) Canon DSLRs. I am using a Gentled-Jump IR shutter trigger with this standard cable with my Nikon D40. That setup will work with many other cameras.
A software - rather than firmware - based controller offers many advantages. It is much easier to update and add features. The software is written in Python, is available as source code, and runs many platforms - Linux/PC, Windows, Nokia Tablets, and could run on Apple Mac though no-one has tried it yet, offers many alternative setups. The software is free.
The next version of the Autopano Pro panorama stitching software will have built-in support for the Gigapan Imager and Merlin/Paywizard robt heads. The still more advanced Autopano Giga will also support the RodeonVR and Pixorb robot heads.
This support will assist in the placement of images that lack matching features - clear sky shots for example - that typically currently makes stitching giga pixel panoramic images quite difficult.
The standard dovetail mount on the Merlin/Orion makes it difficult/impossible to set the camera/lens at a correct NPP in many instances - although it is fine for my Nikon D40. But it is possible to replace the dovetail mount/crown, to facilitate the correct placement of NPP, quite easily. Drawings are available for a replacement crown which could be made by most machine shops.
If you are using the system for gigapixel imaging of distant scenes with nothing within say 100m of the camera then correct NPP doesn't matter anyway.
I have no commercial interests in this project/system. I am just an 'evangelical' user.
Andrew
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